Visionary Vehicles, Poised to Hit a Home Run. An interview with Malcolm Bricklin

Update: December 8, 2014 Visionary Vehicles has a current website and rebirth plan in the news as of May 2024.

Originally published January 2008

Interview with CEO & Founder Malcolm Bricklin.

It goes without saying that Malcolm Bricklin is a dreamer.  He swung not once, not twice, but three times at importing foreign vehicles into the United States.  Subaru was a hit, Bertone badged X1/9s and Yugo, not so much.  Oh yes, and then there was the Bricklin.  It was a full-scale production vehicle, not a kit.  But plagued with poor quality, high production costs and slow sales, the company located in New Brunswick, Canada with government backers of the same name closed up shop.  But as the old adage goes, you better learn from your mistakes ‘ay? 

His next plan, the launch of new car company Visionary Vehicles is not for the faint of pocketbook.  Most experts agree the bank roll needed in the US is in the billions, not millions.  G-force junkies with a V-12 source and a hunkerin’ of a good plan need not apply, because Malcolm isn’t talking about building hundreds of vehicles.  He’s talking about building hundreds of thousands of vehicles all within a few years of launch.  The first production order for 150,000 luxury sedans will hit the market in 2010.  That’s more then Porsche, Jaguar, Land Rover and Mini will do this year combined.  Volvo, Audi and Suzuki hover around the 100,000 annual sales mark while even his alma mater Subaru hasn’t crossed the 200,000 barrier with 40 plus years in the market.  If it seems like a really tall order; that’s the point.    

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MCM:  The 150,00 units you are planning to order, is that US market only?

Bricklin:  US market only.   We have distributors that are calling us from Europe and Asia but we are talking about having a base of a quarter of a million vehicles before going anywhere besides the United States.

MCM: A quarter of a million?

Bricklin: We are planning to add a new vehicle every year for three years.  The first will be a four door luxury automobile, the second will be a seven passenger, luxury crossover all between $30,000 and $40,000.
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To negotiate low costs to build a vehicle that competes with the big boys you need to order in bulk.  Numbers that even Costco would be proud of.  But what kind of low cost car are we talking about?  The US has cut their teeth on the likes of Fiat, Renault, Yugo, Hyundai, Kia and soon the Chinese will make their play.  Mr. Bricklin has to have something good.  No check that, he has to have something great to compete.  He thinks he will.  Visionary Vehicles is cultivating a PHEV, plug-in hybrid electric vehicle, aspiring to Mercedes-Benz style, comfort and luxury for only $35,000.  The engine never actually runs the car, it’s only there to charge the battery for long trips.  This car will get 100 miles per gallon, have a 10 year/200,000 mile warranty and a diagnostic system that can be tapped via a cell phone while being serviced at your home or office.  We think that sounds pretty darn good.

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MCM: But how do you overcome obstacles that the deep pockets of a Honda or Toyota can afford with a head start in the hybrid electric market?

Bricklin: We’ve probably spent 30 million over the last two years in various other ventures learning the things we are going to put in play now.  We will be closing on another 30 million in private placement this month.  We are raising from the dealers a half a billion dollars.   Then, they will place orders for 7.5 billion dollars and finally the dealers are putting up letters of credit for another half a billion dollars.
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8.5 billion dollars should give him a production run with no subsidizing needed and instant profitablility on each vehicle.  But he’ll tell you the secret to what VVCars is doing is not really the car.  He plans to set up an infrastructure of 250 of the finest dealers in the country.  They will be picked on the basis of top CSI scores and of course their deep pockets.  Like many, he’s studied successful franchises and in particular Saturn.  But probably more important and unique to his life, he has learned from multiple failures. 

Malcolm knows dealers are the make and break point of any manufacturer’s sales.  If you aren’t convinced of it, just try to sell vehicles direct online or look at previous franchise strategies.  When Kia started in the early 90’s for example, Kia asked for less than a $30,000 in marketing, tools and signage.  The marketing/showroom funds comprise less than $10,000 of that total.

In return they received dealership displays, interactive units, car toppers, posters, ad planners, etc. to make a Kia showroom.  If the materials made it out of the box, rejoice.  When displays ended up pushed in the corner after several DSM visits, be glad the dealers were still ordering cars.  Five years later, Kia was just completing their nationwide rollout, had a fair amount of dealer turnover and still hadn’t crossed 100,000 units.

With Visionary’s vision, dealer incentive doesn’t simply come from the hope of great sales.  Every one of his dealers will be an owner/investor in the company that shares in company gains as well.  That should move dealer commitment of their new franchise to new levels not normally seen in today’s market. 

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MCM: 
 So, how many dealers do you have signed up right now?

Bricklin:  Here’s what we’ve done.  We’ve interviewed hundreds of dealers and picked one, Jamie Auffenberg who bought four dealerships, and we have put him on our board.  He’s going to be the first director of a major car company that’s a dealer.   What that is showing the world, is that when we say our dealers are our partners, that is the truth.  In January, we will start allowing dealers to come in and start signing contracts.

MCM:  How many dealers do you need before you launch?

Bricklin:   We have found out the when talking to these dealers that 125 dealers could cover all 250 territories.  So, each dealer would cover two territories.  There are 20,000 new car dealers and 40,000 used car dealers, so there are plenty of dealers that are going to want to do this thing.  We think our only problem will be getting the right dealers and signing up dealers too fast.  Because those are the ones we are going to live with for the rest of our lives.  When all the dealers are signed up, we are going to take the company public, so their investment immediately becomes liquid and they can sell shares if they want to earn back their initial investment.

MCM: 
 One of the concerns we are seeing with manufacturers is their DSI [dealer satisfaction index] scores need improvement .  What are your thoughts and plans around addressing this area?

Bricklin:  When you talk about electric hybrids, you have less things that go wrong with them and less things that need maintenance.  You have more things that can be fixed in a modular situation where you pull out a module and fix a module and don’t worry about fixing [it] at the dealership.  Just pull it out and put in a new one.  It also allows us to go to people’s houses or place of business so they never have to visit the dealer.

MCM:  In terms of environmental consciousness, the landscape seems to be changing quite quickly and manufacturing is really the dirty little secret of car making.  Can you talk about carbon footprint, the manufacturing process, are there going to be recycled materials in the car?

Bricklin:  In developing the car itself, we are looking at the end and the end of the car’s life.  Are we looking at anything that is toxic?  Are we looking at anything that can’t be recycled?  So we are going down the road and trying to make the car as perfect as we can and that’s not a hard job to do any longer.  That’s number one.  Number two, the car is going to be compared to a Mercedes S-Class in size and weight and performance.  Compared to that, we save seven tons of carbon per year, per every 12,000 miles driven over the Mercedes-Benz.  It’s a very major thing.  In fact, the profile of the people who will use our car, 80% will never use any gasoline because the first 40-50 miles will come from the plug and they’ll only travel 12,000 miles a year.

MCM:  It all sounds really good, but you’ve got a lot of manufacturers that are struggling to reach 100,000 vehicles a year with good quality affordable cars.   Do you think that 150,000 vehicles is overshooting the market?

Bricklin:   Not at all.  When we’ve talked to focus groups about a luxury sedan for $35,000, that is clean, that gets over 100 miles to the gallon they get so excited.   We’re not talking about guys who buy Mercedes-Benz or BMW, we’re talking about guys buying Toyotas, Hondas or Nissans stepping up.  A little bit higher than where they are going right now because the average vehicle price is $29,000 in the market today.
 
MCM:  Who’s going to be the designer of this first car?

Bricklin:  Well, the first car ironically is the designer I had design my first Bricklin, Herb Grasse.   He was a young man that then was working for Chrysler and Ford but came out of the Pasenda design school.  I called him up and said if you’re still alive, I’d like you to design my second Bricklin.  But this one will be, of course, without gull-wing doors. 
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When looking at the hybrid electric market, the one thing we may agree on is that the Prius was the right vehicle at the right time and that’s half the battle to launching a success.  But boy it was one ugly car.  Herb Grasse is still alive.  But unlike his hair, I don’t think his designs have improved much with age.  Malcolm is up to bat again as coach of team Visionary Vehicles.  This time it’s the bottom of the ninth for the 68 year old.  Lead off hitter is Herb Grasse with Quality Product in the two-hole.  For Visionary Vehicle’s sake, let’s hope both get on base so Joe Dealer or John Q. Public can knock one out of the park for him.

Bricklin Collection Plug-in Hybrid Electric Luxury Sedan EVX/LS

Tesla Motors, Where’s the Car Guy?

Originally Published 2007

Tech guys may be able to build a fast electric sports car, but what do they know about running a car company?

Tesla Motors captured the environmentally conscious car market when the tree hugger talk turned from transportation to tuner toys. An all electric sports car that can do 0-60 in 4 seconds built on a stretched Lotus Elise was just what Prius posers needed.

After delays that have pushed production into 2008, we decided to take a look at the make up of Tesla Motors and talk with Joe Powers about the future of Tesla.

MCM: After reading through your board and team members, we’ve noticed that no one has direct car industry experience such as, running a dealership or working at a manufacturer with responsibilities in distribution, service, sales or marketing (except for Malcolm Powell who managed vehicle development at Lotus). While you are hiring engineers in Detroit, what are your plans for automotive experts who come from the car business?

Powers: As we grow as a company we’ll increasingly attract world-class talent from the automotive world. When we begin delivering and servicing vehicles next year and manufacturing on a larger scale in the coming years, we expect to bring more automotive experience into the fold. We’ve set out to do things on a very different path than have established manufacturers, so hiring a broad base of skill-sets and backgrounds has helped that creative development. There is no doubt that the industry contains valuable practices, and we’ll bring those resources on as we continue to innovate towards a new type of company and customer experience.

MCM: Who currently or in the future is handling the overall marketing and positioning of the company and what are the goals?

Powers: Darryl Siry is Vice President of Marketing, Sales and Service. Marketing goals closely tie into the design, performance and efficiency philosophy of the company, and branding decisions are made within those paradigms.

MCM: Tesla Motors adopted the 2-seater roadster style setup for your introductory vehicle. Other start up car companies such as Saturn, Kia, even Toyota and now the Chinese electric companies like BYD Auto planned market entrance with larger or sedan type vehicles.

Given that funding a new automotive start up is estimated in the billions, can you talk more about the reasoning behind that approach for the electric market and how you feel that approach sets the tone for future models like the White Star or Blue Star?

Powers: There’s no doubt that the auto industry presents huge barriers to entry. We’ve also got the added costs of R&D for a whole new technology in our proprietary electric drive components. As a result, entering the market from the high end with initially low volumes makes a lot of sense. Our three company tenants are design, performance and efficiency. We are positioned to offer best-in-class vehicles in each of these categories, and the Roadster embodies that philosophy. Future models, including the White Star sedan, will follow that trend while serving progressively lower price points at higher volumes as marginal costs are reduced.

MCM: At a $50,000 price point for the White Star, what type of vehicle will it be. Will it be built on it’s own platform or a shared venture?

Powers: Our goals for White Star are lower price and higher volume. The vehicle will be a 4-door, 5-passenger sedan, but beyond that it is too early for manufacturing details to be finalized. We’ll announce any new information on our website as it is released.

MCM: While an IPO has been mentioned, will that fund the future vehicle development or are their new raises coming to do that before an IPO?

Powers: We are discussing our fund raising strategy currently, but no formal plans have been established. We have raised $105 million from private investment to date and have no firm plans for an IPO at this time.

MCM: Currently your service zones are are in SF, LA, NY, Chicago and Miami. Are those Tesla owned facilities or contracted service centers?

Powers: These are locations where we plan to establish Tesla Stores, which provide sales and service capacity to customers. The Tesla Stores will resemble a branded retail experience similar to an Apple store rather than the traditional dealership showroom. We have two facilities on track to open in early 2008 in Menlo Park, CA and Los Angeles.

MCM: Where and how do you see the expansion of those services
and sales zones growing?

Powers: Our goal is to provide a comprehensive and innovative customer experience nation-wide. From our initial locations we’ll expand to provide more convenient coverage.

MCM: The manufacturing process is really quite a dirty one. What can you tell me about the carbon footprint of these cars before they save on emissions?

Powers: Machining parts for cars is resource-intensive. Where we can find efficiencies in the manufacturing process, we try to employ them; our Yokohama Advan tires were selected not only because of their performance and low-rolling resistance, but also because Yokohama produces the tires through an innovative zero-waste process; by using lithium ion battery cells, we gain the high energy density advantages, but also avoid the presence of heavy metals found in other chemistries; our battery pack is highly recyclable, from the steel cell casing to the lithium and cobalt contained within each cell. The casing for the battery pack is design to be able to be re-used.

MCM: Do you have breakdowns of recycled materials? What do you do at the company itself to remain green?

Powers: We have an internal green initiative that has been established to keep our corporate practices in line with our greater mission of efficiency. Currently, we are working to develop more sustainable transportation incentives for employees and reduce office waste.

MCM: It’s been noted that you are planning to grow from 300 to 3000 employees. In what capacity are the employees going to be hired?

Powers: No official ramp has been set for growth, but we expect to maintain a healthy hiring rate.

MCM: Do you see a strong base in Detroit? How about LA?

Powers: Detroit has some great resources, and we do intend to continue to build our Rochester Hills based organization with that talent. Los Angeles is also a very large market for us and will increase once we establish a permanent location there early next year.

Press Release November 28, 2007

Tesla Motors Completes CEO Search

A Message from Elon Musk, Chairman of Tesla Motors:

For the past several months, the board of Tesla Motors has been engaged in a search for the right person to lead the company through its next phase of growth. During the search, we met with many candidates from a wide range of backgrounds, including both the automotive and high-tech sectors.

Given what Tesla needs to accomplish, the ideal CEO is someone that understands the automotive sector, but also has a proven entrepreneurial and high-tech track record. Advancing our leading electric drivetrain technology is critical, but, above all, the Tesla CEO must be someone who will ensure that the products we deliver to customers are outstanding.

To that end, it is with great pleasure that I announce that Ze’ev Drori will become CEO of Tesla Motors, effective December 3rd.

Ze’ev is a successful high-tech entrepreneur and an experienced chief executive with the proven ability to create and manage companies with innovative products in both the high-tech and automotive sectors. He has more than 30 years of continual success and has demonstrated the ability to lead a company from conception to profitability, a public offering and thousands of employees.

The first company he founded was Monolithic Memories, a Silicon Valley semiconductor firm that pioneered fundamental advances in memory and logic technology, before being acquired by AMD in 1987. Under his leadership, Monolithic introduced programmable read-only memory (PROM) and programmable array logic (PAL), which revolutionized many aspects of computer and electronic systems technology. As CEO through 1981, Ze’ev was responsible for R&D, manufacturing, marketing, finance, world wide sales and overseas operations for product assembly. Ze’ev served as chairman of the board from 1981 through 1987.

After the sale of Monolithic Memories, Ze’ev purchased a controlling interest in Clifford Electronics, then a small start-up in auto security systems and the perfect combination of his twin passions for technology and automobiles. As chairman and CEO, he rapidly developed Clifford into the world’s leading automobile security company through significant innovations, such as remote control alarms, and distribution relationships with domestic and international car manufacturers as well as a network of thousands of retail dealers. In 1999, Ze’ev sold Clifford Electronics to Allstate Insurance.

I would like to thank Michael Marks for his leadership of Tesla Motors as interim CEO for the last few months. Michael’s experience with manufacturing and logistics has been very valuable for the company as it prepares to enter production of the Tesla Roadster. As an investor and customer, Michael will continue to be involved in Tesla.

The Best of France and Italy Car Show

Originally published 2007

Photos that are referenced have been lost.

The drive into Van Nuys, California for The Best of France and Italy Car Show, ah like totally in the valley, wasn’t particularly hot on this November 1st morning. But it was still only ten o’clock. The things I dislike most about car shows in California is how hot it gets by mid-day. Should I wear shorts, pants, maybe jeans and a t-shirt, big hat for the sun, baseball hat, tennis shoes, flip flops. What’s a boy to do? Get into a car with three other boys and go to the show. We drove in my friend Aaron’s classic 1958 Desoto with big fins, big bench vinyl seats and big windows. Big glorious windows that let the wind smooth out my hat-head hair for a bit of cool. But the vinyl seats counter acted that and just made your butt sweat.

Everyone keeps talking about this show. “There is always something unique, it’s not your typical.” Everyone was right. We ran into Mark Vaughn from AutoWeek at this show among others. He was putting together a story while claiming to be wasting his time on a Sunday to keep his job. 50% of which is probably true. He left us to go find the guy who runs the show for some fabled quotes about “how much it keeps expanding year over year” and “how proud we are of the turnout.” Morgan Seagal, photographer for Car and Driver, rallied for the cause while Jay Leno brought one of the most expensive Bugattis in existence. Everyone of these collectors who showed their cars, like the yellow 1996 DeTomaso Guara — one of 40 made and the last DeTomaso produced before the company’s demise, challenged the guy next to him for one-offness. The Guara had a 4.6 liter V8 producing 370hp, a 6-speed transmission and weighed only 2,550 pounds.

Shade was our friend as the time passed on noon and beyond. Dust was not. I’m happy to get dusty vs muddy but the cars and their owners probably not so much. Jay’s car, you can see Jay just above the front wheel, had sweeping marks from wet wiping the car before driving it out to the featured display area. Photographer’s and fans mobbed the car kicking up more dust. I was fortunate to snap this photo as the car drove in before it was surrounded. It’s nearly impossible to get a beauty shot of these cars without some guy pushing a stroller in front of you.

Most noted car at the show? The black Tatra. Tatra is a vehicle manufacturer in Kopřivnice (Nesselsdorf in German), Czech Republic. The company was founded in 1850 as Schustala & Company later renamed Nesselsdorfer Wagenbau-Fabriksgesellschaft, a wagon and carriage manufacturer, and in 1897 produced the first motor car in central Europe, the Präsident. In 1918 it changed its name to Kopřivnická vozovka a.s. and in 1919 started to use Tatra badge named after the nearby Tatra mountains. Tatra is the third oldest car maker in the world after Daimler Mercedes-Benz and Peugeot. Production of Tatra cars ceased in 1999 but the company still produces a range of primarily all-wheel-drive 4×4, 6×6, 8×8, 10×10, and 12×12 trucks.

Tatra’s specialty was luxury cars of a technically advanced nature, going from aircooled flat-twins to fours and sixes, culminating (briefly) with the OHC 6 litre V12 in 1931.[1] In the 1930s, under Austrian engineer Hans Ledwinka, his son Erich and German engineer Erich Übelacker and protected by a high tariff and absence of foreign assemblers,[2] Tatra then began building advanced, streamlined cars after obtaining licences from Paul Jaray, which started in 1934 with the large Tatra T77, the world’s first production aerodynamic car. The fastback T77’s drag coefficient of 0.212 is rarely bettered even by the sleekest of modern cars. It featured (as did almost all subsequent big Tatras) a rear-mounted, air-cooled V8 engine, which was in technical terms very sophisticated for the time.
Ledwinka discussed his ideas with Ferdinand Porsche who used many Tatra design features in the 1938 Kdf-Wagen, later known as the VW Beetle. This is particularly evident when compared with the smaller T97 model which had a rear-mounted, air-cooled, flat-4 engine and rounded body styling. Tatra immediately started legal action, but the matter was not resolved until 1961 when Volkswagen was ordered to pay 3,000,000 Deutsche Marks in damages. — Wikipedia

We stood under a tree while part of our group milled around the show. Concorso Italiano gave me a fill of the Fiat and Alfa groups although I’m sure I missed something.. like sweating more in the sun… I enjoyed chatting at that point more. In the end, these shows are as much about the cars as learning from the people who love them.

Are Stick Shifts Dead? An Interview with Jay Leno

Update: Before the big movement to save the manuals, I decided to see what Jay Leno had to say about the continued movement to one less pedal.

Original interview December 2008

Hybrid electric cars, emission controls and traffic are all to blame.  But why Jay Leno thinks something else is at fault.

Three-on-the-tree
Four-on-the-floor
Double-clutch-downshifts
Heel-to-toe
Can’t find ‘em grind ‘em
Where would we be without stick shifts? 

For the enthusiast, there may be nothing more satisfying than dropping the clutch for a thrilling launch, all four limbs motoring about in synchronicity as you counter steer the burn out — clutch — shift — then hit the gas on your way to triple digits. 

For the habitual A-to-B driver, there may be nothing more frustrating than trying to let the clutch out slowly, maintaining engine revs by RPMs not pedal placement, as your bobble-head passenger wonders how many years just got burned off their clutch disc.  Yikes forbid you ever encounter a hill.

AutoPacific, an automotive research and consulting firm, says the 90% of the U.S. car market is comprised of automatics.  Ninety percent.  Nine zero.  If I brought that number home on a school paper, it would end up on the fridge.   Does anyone see what’s happening?  The man is phasing out stick shifts.  The only people who order manual transmissions are folks with D-paper living the American debt dream and a few obsessed car guys.  

Sure, we could blame ourselves and say that global warming is making us push manufacturers to higher CAFE standards and tighter emissions controls.  And what better way to achieve that then through automatic transmissions that gives engineers the ultimate engine management controls?  If we are talking about hybrids, an electric motor has 100% of the torque from a dead stop.  Engineers don’t even need a gearbox.  And speaking of gearbox, who wants to shift one constantly during rush hour?  Ask a BMW dealer in Southern California to test drive a manual and they’ll tell you “I can order one for ya, it’ll take about eight weeks.” Well then, aren’t we living in a geographical oddity.

We interview Jay Leno, maybe “The” obsessed car guy, and ask him with all of these factors pushing us to just select “D”, are stick shifts dead?

Leno: I think what’s happening is you have a whole generation of kids who grew up without them.  I talked to someone who bought an SLR McLaren and I used to have an SLR McLaren.  We started talking and I asked, well, do you like it? 

He said, “Well yeah I love it, it’s an automatic.  I don’t drive a stick”.  

And that’s the reason I don’t like mine.  Today I was just driving my ’64 Honda 600 which has got 57 horsepower and a 4-speed.  You’ve really got to make the gearbox work but that’s the fun.  It almost seems to me in an era when cars are becoming so fast that to get any sensation out of them at all, you have to be physically involved.

Leno:  The reason I bought the Porsche Carerra GT was primarily because Porsche spent a great deal of time and effort developing the six-inch ceramic clutch.  Just putting all the time and effort into a new type of clutch and gearbox to lower the center of gravity.  I was so impressed with them not going the easy route of paddle shifters.

You know the funny thing is, I talked to guys who have the 430 Ferrari and they go,

“Oh, it’s got the F1 gearbox just like the F1.” 

And I say, do you like it? 

And they go “well it’s not as much fun as a stick but you know this is what the F1 technology guys use and this is what they use at the race track.” 

But you’re not at the racetrack. 

“Well, uh yeah.”

The most fun with cars is in the 60-100 mile per hour range.  Nobody’s running 188 or 207 on the street and if you are you should be in jail.  But most guys are running 60 to 100.  And to me, the fun of executing a perfect downshift or up-shift is very gratifying.  Especially when you use old pre-war boxes like the old Bentley’s I’ve got.

MCM:  You started out by talking about the young people, the younger generation.  Is it they just aren’t being taught how to drive a stick? 

Leno:  I’m 57 years old so I grew up in a time when the car wouldn’t start.  So my dad and I would open up the hood and I’d go, what’s that?  He’d say “those are the points.  Let me show how to clean them, let me show you how to set them.”   There was a more physical involvement with the car.  Plus in the era when I grew up, automatic transmissions were an expensive option.  So your dad got like the Ford LTD and your mom got the Falcon with the stick.  That’s the way it was back in the day but now everybody buys automatics.

I think there will always be a certain market for it.  I remember back in the 80’s, Taurus came out with the Taurus SHO and that came with a five speed and I think that less then 3% of people actually opted for the stick.

MCM:  Do you think that we’ll be paying for a stick shift as an option and automatics will become the standard?

Leno:  Oh sure, on the Ferrari Scuderia, they don’t even have a stick shift.  There is no stick shift available.  Yeah, I think the stick will become an option.   You know I drove one of those E-gear Lamborghinis.

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We pause for a moment as Jay takes a call on his cell phone to wish somebody a Merry Christmas.

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Leno:  Back to the E-gear, I drove one of those and I hated it.   To turn around you gotta stop, put your foot on the brake, wait for it to beep twice, press the R button, back up, stop, take your foot, you know…  I like the old days of rocking it back and forth.  As you’re rollin’ your kinda slipping it in reverse and all in one motion you back up.

MCM:
 How many gears before we stop adding?

Leno:  You always want to have your car in the power band but at some point it becomes a marketing tool.  You know Mercedes has got the seven-speed transmission and then Lexus comes out with the eight, and people go ooh eight, give me the eight.

MCM:  Do you think it will go past six speeds in a manual?

Leno:  Six is about right.  I’ve got a little Rocket, an English car.  It’s got 12 speeds, basically six high and six low.   It pretty much what the public dictates but six seems about right.

MCM:  The other half of Motor Car Market is stick shift and rear-wheel drive.  What are your thoughts on rear-wheel drive?

Leno:  Rear wheel drive is coming back.  It’s hard to sell a high end car with front wheel drive.  People just don’t seem to like it.  It’s for packaging in econo-boxes.  Cadillac has gone back to rear-wheel drive.  I prefer it myself because I like to slide a car a little bit.  That’s half the fun, sliding it around. 

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MCM: We couldn’t agree more.  Thank you Jay.

Leno: No problem, I hope you got what you wanted.

Image credit: Jay Leno Garage Facebook page

Spyker Founder Victor Muller Sits Down with MCM

Originally Published August 2007

Victor Muller is about six foot four, has dashing gray hair, glasses and exhumes the energy of a kid after five bags of Pop Rocks. Why shouldn’t he? He is co-founder of Spyker, one of the sexiest car companies to hit the scene since Lamborghini launched the super car with the Miura. Never mind that after nine years the company is not profitable, his car ranks seventh in a collector’s garage and his first gen cars are widely criticized as being beautifully crafted automobiles with the chassis rigidity of a tin can.

We met Victor for the second time at the Spyker “booth” they erected on Pebble Beach’s tent row, the first being the 2002 British Motor Show. The booth was the first one a passerby would come across walking uphill from the Lodge or the last one coming from the parking lot, your choice. There were four cars parked out front for test drives while he showcased his race car on the grass and his latest model on the stand. People were busy bees in and around the cars while the booth area was roped off, invitees only. While I waited for our interview up in the lounge area, Victor finished meetings, caught up with old friends and had his picture taken. Others were in line for an interview down on the grass as we sat together on the couches.

MCM: How many cars have your manufactured?

Victor: We have sold 250. Cars numbered 251, 252 and 253 are out front.

At a price of “if you need to ask”, he obviously hasn’t rolled out a Ford style assembly line to put cars into the mainstream. But that isn’t his intention either.

MCM: Give me the helicopter view that you have clearly told one too many times… why this company?

Victor: I was collecting Aston Martins, Ferraris and other sports cars and still do, but I felt there was a need for an exclusive car with old world craftsmanship, like they used to build. This type of car is represented in our five brand pillars: heritage, design, craftsmanship, performance and exclusivity. These are the five core elements that constitute the Spyker brand. The exclusive and the hand-built elements are very important when you compare to the mass-produced sports cars.

MCM: I was just at an interview with Henry Fisker as he spoke about the Karma.

Victor: First of all, I have tremendous respect for Henry and what he is doing. He is a fantastic designer and pioneer in building hybrid electric cars.

MCM: Of course. What I’d like to know is your view on his manufacturing techniques, farming everything out while only having the overhead of a design, engineering and marketing organization in the U.S. In a sense, you are both building something exclusive from scratch. Although Henry plans on 15,000 units.

Victor: Everything is cyclical in manufacturing, this is a trend that I think we are seeing (he motions widely with his arm up and down). Right now we are seeing companies look to the outside to get manufacturing accomplished. But when you are tied to companies outside of your control, you are subjected to their unions and other demand that can impact your production. We will see this change and manufacturing will be brought in house again to help maintain control.

MCM: You currently get your engine and suspension from outside sources. Are you giving up control?

Victor: We get our suspension from Lotus and the engines from Audi but do own our chassis and electrical systems. It would be impossible for us to engineer our own engines. The costs are tremendous to build the tooling for such a low volume of cars. The suspension comes from Lotus. They are the experts in handling and the recognized leader. We could not do a better job.

The hand-crafted body panels are supplied by both Coventry Prototype Panels from the U.K. and Karmann from Germany. The chassis of the C8 is built from extruded box sections and folded sheet.

Victor: We would like to take more of the body construction in house. That is our goal for the future.

MCM: Are you profitable? How are you financed?

Victor: No, we are not profitable. We are a public company listed on Amsterdam Exchanges with four major shareholders. About 25% of the stock is in the hands of government owned Abu Dhabi investment company Mubadala (which also has 5% of Ferrari). One is Vladimir Antonov, a new shareholder who came in at the end of last year. He’s a Russian banker who is very committed to the company and a keen car collector and financial investor. He has 30% of the stock. Another investment company, Gemini, has 10% and I also have 10%. So collectively, the major shareholders account for 75% of the company’s ownership. The rest is in free float.

MCM: When do expect to be profitable?

Victor: Sometime next year in 2010 or 2011.

MCM: Back to the manufacturing process for a moment. I was at an interview with Henry Fisker yesterday and he offered up without being questioned that “they are an American car company.”

Victor: But they build their cars in Finland.

MCM: My point exactly.

Victor gives a slight roll-the-eyes as we both chuckle a bit.

MCM: What can we expect from Spyker in the future? Are you interested in hybrid technology?

Victor: We don’t believe that there will be the infrastructure to support electric cars for some time. What is going to happen if you want to drive through the desert? You are limited by a need to charge the vehicle. We have no plans to move from our current fuel based engines. We do plan to expand the line and are going to be launching an SUV, the D8 Peking-to-Paris.

MCM: What about fuel cell vehicles?

Victor: BMW has said it will be 2025 before they can have a successful consumer based fuel cell vehicle.

Victor: You know, one of the things we are most excited about is our 5th place finish at the 24 Hours de LeMans this year. We finish ahead of all Porsches in our GT2 class. This is great achievement for us and we are really excited about it.

From Spyker’s Press Release: Mr. Muller: “As from the day we launched the company in October 2000, we have consistently used endurance racing as one of our marketing pillars. Since 2002, we have raced at Le Mans every year, except for 2004, and used the event as a powerful marketing tool. We strongly feel that racing breeds our brand and that our commercial effort to sale our product is greatly helped by the exposure generated by our GT2 cars at Le Mans. Until now, these efforts did not bear the desired fruit: a successful finish in the most challenging 24-hour race in the world. Today, that all changed. Our team Spyker Squadron came in fifth in the GT2 class, preceded only by four Ferrari’s F430 and left six Ferrari’s, five Porsches and one Aston Martin behind.”

MCM: Congratulations on the finish. Thank you for your time.

1,800 Seconds Short of the 24 Heures Du Mans

The distance: 2,400 miles to Los Angeles.
The car: The dead nut reliable 1993 Eagle/Mitsubishi Summit ES with four cylinder, 12V, 92 horsepower motor.
The goal: Train for the 24 Heures Du Mans.

The 24 Heures Du Mans is the world’s oldest, the first one being held in 1923, and most difficult sports car endurance race. And while no one driver, other than Eddie Hall heir to a textile business who used its proceeds to go racing, became the only man, before or since, to drive the entire 24 hours solo in 1950, I wanted to train for it. All 24 hours of it. Yes I know, it is mandated that three drivers must share the duty but I was challenged by history. I wanted to drive 24 hours straight. I wanted to train for Le Mans.

During the summer of ’95 I had taken two weeks off of work and drove the country, Seattle to Michigan, Michigan to LA, LA back to Seattle. During the second and longest leg, a diagonal crossing of the country green flanked by Pictured Rocks in the upper peninsula of Munising, Michigan, I headed south down US-51 on route to HWY 44 before connecting with HWY 40 into the city of too many angles. It was somewhere along this open stretch of highway 44, built by what I can only assume was a government contract to the lowest bidder, I had the brilliant idea to train for a race that technically didn’t exist.

It was a race against myself but still no car was allowed to pass me. If it did, I followed it until it eventually turned off the freeway and passed it back up. Speed was under the radar at 80-90mph with only a few pushes into triple digits. Slow and steady would win my race. Stops were relegated to when I needed gas, oh to have a young bladder again, and drinks limited to small amounts of caffeine via Diet Coke. Details get foggy when you are driving 19, 20 and 21 hours. But there was a single clarity I would focus on, the mark, make it to the next rest area. If you feel good, drive on to the next one. With windows down, hand slaps to the face and music blaring — “Next Rest Area 53 Miles” would be my demise. I had driven 23 hours 30 minutes and fell a measly 1,800 seconds short of reaching my goal.

Fast forward to a girls’ coming of age party in 2011 and we found ourselves in France two months before the Grand Prix of Endurance and Efficiency. Disappointed that we wouldn’t be able to coordinate a race weekend this visit, we headed for Le Mans to find the next best thing, the Musée des 24 Heuers Du Mans. An unmatched opportunity to bring our passion together with “training” at the birthplace of endurance.

The 24 Hours of Le Mans Museum opened in April 2009 and is spread over 43,000 sq. feet. It is located right next door to the Circuit de la Sarthe, the race circuit used for the 24 Hour race. Along with permanent exhibitions dedicated to the Le Mans 24 Hours event, there are more than 100 incredible cars on display plus dozens of films and archival photographs. The Museum also houses a number of sets and scenes reconstructing the atmosphere of the Le Mans 24 hours from yesteryear.

Our visit on that late April Wednesday was exhilarating. The static displays created an immersion into a culture of mechanical and driver dominance that we’d never be able to replicate, even when watching the race itself. Life size posters allowed us to stand face to face with some of the greatest names in endurance racing, Nuvolari, Porsche, Enzo, Ford. Nine separate TV monitors displayed footage and photos from every decade of the race’s existence. Multiple dioramas put you right on the grid. And the cars wow the cars. What few of them were roped off was complimented by those that weren’t. It was a chance to get up close and personal with precision crafted steel, leather, glass and alloy built to travel the fastest, longest and hardest of any automobile in the world. It was brilliant.